Date: 2002-04-07 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizw.livejournal.com
At least the prospank site specifies over-18s. Christian sites that support spanking kids are way scarier, IMO.

Date: 2002-04-07 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
I dunno, I thought there was something creepy in them saying 'over-18s', as if they'd been told they had to say it to be legal. And the idea that late teens / 20-somethings still need 'correction' and 'parental discipline' in the form of being put over someone's knee (in a non-SM context) is frankly appalling.

Date: 2002-04-08 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizw.livejournal.com
I don't feel qualified to judge what works for other people, and I don't think there's anything special about kink that makes it a valid reason for consenting and anything else invalid.

Date: 2002-04-08 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
http://www.prospank.com/about.html
]...] we support such things as Biblical discipline (also understood to mean the proper use of corporal punishment, i.e., spanking) when it is needed to correct acts of willful disobedience and misbehavior.

[...]

We believe in minimalist intervention of government into the lives of families, and therefore oppose such things as the abuses committed by the Child Protective Services System in the United States, and the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Date: 2002-04-08 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adjectivemarcus.livejournal.com
Hmmm, but: from http://www.prospank.com/woodshed.html

We are currently looking for someone to manufacture high-quality spanking paddles to be used for the proper disciplining of all children, from toddlers through teens.

Wooden Paddles. Toddlers.

The site is run by David Zublick according to the whois, which comes up with some interesting hits (no pun intended) on Google.

Date: 2002-04-09 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizw.livejournal.com
Ah, now that does move it into the "scary" category for me.

Date: 2002-04-08 07:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] barakta
Hi,

I guess that may be the official case, but its still more than a little dodgy. My parents are or were quite into some right-wing christian stuff at various times when I was a kid, and some of the people at their churches have been Scary!!!

I know people who are really into serious heavy duty spanking type stuff or equaly badly emotional blackmail using religion as their justification. I am lucky my parents were always quite sane..... I'm not saying reight-Wing Christian stuff is the only dodgy lot out there, but the fact they are so commonly sanctioned by society as a whole, because of course as Christians (nice mainstream religion) they couldn't possibly be wrong could they.

Maybe I'm too cynical...

Maybe not...

Natalya
xxxxxxx

Date: 2002-04-08 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-meta.livejournal.com
Spanking's just the tip of the proverbial. Millions of people are allowed to mutilate their children's genitals for religious reasons.

Date: 2002-04-08 07:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] barakta
Hi,

Agreed re genital mutilation. I guess what I was trying to say is some people are messed up by more than apparent unconsensual physical violence....

Too much evil is done in the name of deities, religion and so called faith.

Shame cos it doesn't reflect well on people who don't use their religion as something evil or manipulative.

Natalya
xxxxxxx

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