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The Atkins Diet is a pile of dangerous pseudo-science. Not that this comes as a surprise, but here's the word from Dr Susan Jebb of the Medical Research Council's Human Nutrition Research Centre.

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Update: Post made friends-only. Thanks to

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vampwillow had invited people in

atkins_uk to join the thread, resulting in some incredibly lunatic contributions. Update: Public again.

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From:

x-mass.livejournal.com

no, but i do like to keep an open mind. this is something i fear some people here are lacking.

yup your mind is truly open to new things, as open as I don’t know the bible no, no wait the Koran. A mind so open that actually doing some research before commenting is not required. A mind so open to other possibilities that its owner merely spouts hearsay and nth hand information from ‘establishment’ sources. A mind that assumes that others are just like them and that it never occurred to us to look at all the data, that we could never have read research papers on the issues before starting down the Atkins route, that for example it wouldn’t occur to us to do what Atkins asks and to get regular blood tests. And of course all those laboratories around the world are part of some global conspiracy to foist the lie that Atkins works when they report back reduced triglyceride levels, lower levels of VLDL and LDL cholesterol, whilst rising level of HDL, of good blood iron levels, good Liver Function Tests, to doctors who whilst initially sceptical watch as there patients lose weight from life threatening levels to normal body weight.

The same patients who for years have fought to reduce or just maintain their weight on diets that fit the ‘standard’ pyramid of foods. I say ‘standard’ because it different in different countries and has been changed every 10 years or so to become the new established Truth. 20+ years ago the truth was that bread and potatoes were the best and fat was bad, 10+ years ago it was that bread and potatoes weren’t so good and that complex vegetables that was good and that it was fat that should be taken in very small amounts, Now its that some fats such as Olive oils are good and should be taken in reasonable amounts but saturated, trans and hydrogenated fats should be avoided – the sort of fats found in most margarine’s. But hey the establishment or at least the bits of the establishment that everybody has been quoting still hold to the idea that fat equals bad carbs equal good.

Perhaps you should try doing opening your mind through research before you try to comment on the openness of other people commenting here

From:

tempaccount99

i don't care about the atkins diet, as i've said many times before. you're totally free to do what you like, and i'm happy to let you do so - hey, if it works for you why not. i'm not the one talking about conspiracies, i haven't quoted any hearsay, and i'd like to make my own judgement in my own time.

From:

x-mass.livejournal.com

Ok cool - but perhaps you shoudl do some research before you comment on this area. You think i wasnt sceptical of this before i tried Atkins?
I admit i relied on a friend to my most of my reasearch I tried it out for a week to see if it helped, I have subsquenstly read and researched numerous papers because I have met a barrage of ill thought out hearsay based on little or no research. I have also found that Atkins worked for me - and that there is strong scientific evidance to back up the theories about how it works

From:

tempaccount99

but perhaps you shoudl do some research before you comment on this area
i haven't commented on this area. i have looked at both sides of the discussion, and come to conclusions. the one that makes most sense to me is that atkins is a diet, like many others. it's no better, no worse than any other diet.

From: (Anonymous)

How disappointing. To say that attempting discussion with semi-literate trolls whose meagre grasp of logic and interconnectivity of arguments makes it less than exhilarating, would be quite an understatement. Are some people just born with a thick fog between their neurons that prevents clear thought?

Hmm, anyway, reminds me of the 'tards from

siamang's bunny-eating post. Pity we have to share a planet with so many of them.

I know you conduct yourself too professionally to stoop to saying that yourself, so I hope you don't mind me taking this potshot for you ;) - unter
Bitchy mode: Disengaged

From:

tempaccount99

I hope you don't mind me taking this potshot for you
no, man, i don't mind you taking potshots... not sure you needed to do it anonymously though... :)