ciphergoth.org domain fucked

[ciphergoth]

I tried to move ciphergoth.org to my own nameserver. Well, either GANDI or Network Solutions have fucked up, because now the domain (and its friends) doesn't seem to exist at all.

Bah.

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[lovingboth]

Hmm, betterwhois reckons there are no ns,

[whois.crsnic.net]
Domain Name: CIPHERGOTH.ORG
Registrar: GANDI
Whois Server: whois.gandi.net
Referral URL: http://www.gandi.net
Name Server: No nameserver
Updated Date: 12-nov-2001

and that there are two, according to gandi (who?) themselves

[whois.gandi.net]
domain: ciphergoth.org
owner-address: Paul Crowley
owner-address: BM Boog
owner-address: 27 Old Gloucester St
owner-address: WC1N 3XX
owner-address: London
owner-address: United Kingdom
nserver: raq3.antipope.org 213.239.59.58
nserver: ns1.secondary.com 198.133.199.3

So presumably there's some propogation to happen.

[alienspacebat.livejournal.com]

Been there before. I run a raq 3 server doing it's own dns (uk2 registered the domains) Peversely to keep a backup I configured uk2's ns first in it's horribe automatic page and then switched only the primary ns to my server. And they promised the changes would propogate instantly. And surprisingly they did (god knows how) but my domains flashed in and out of existance for about a day before they fully stabilised as working

[ex-meta.livejournal.com]

People seem to have this bizarre belief that DNS changes and nameserver changes take effect immediately. I really don't know where they get it from. My experience is that it can take up to a week for changes to trickle across the entire Internet.

I remember telling the folks at infidels.org this, and they flat out refused to believe me, because their "expert" told them otherwise. Oh well, they found out.

[ciphergoth.livejournal.com]

I expected the change to take time to take effect. But I had expected that when you did an NS query on ciphergoth.org, you'd get either the old records or the new. Not an authoritative declaration that the domain flat-out didn't exist.

[ex-meta.livejournal.com]

I'm guessing that Network Solutions have to remove the domain from their database before Gandi can add it to theirs.

If I had to guess which organization was more likely to have fucked up, the answer would be Network Solutions, hands down.

[ciphergoth.livejournal.com]

Gandi are keeping control of the domain; all I've asked them to do is change which nameservers are associated with it from their own to mine.

But yes, I agree with your second paragraph absolutely.