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"Freedom," said George Bush in Sarasota in the first sentence of his first reaction, "was attacked this morning by a faceless coward." That properly represents the stupidity and blindness of almost all of the mainstream political commentary.

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
It's in the linked article - third or fourth subheading, headed "Least credible news footage". Text reads:

"CNN's videotape of Palestinians supposedly dancing in the streets of a West Bank town. CounterPuncher Marcio A.V. Carvalho at the state university of Campinas in Brazil tells us that he and his colleagues had compared this tape with one from 1991 showing Palestinian cheering, and found them to be identical"

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
Ah, bollocks, I was trying to link to this article, which they moved already. And they don't give a permanent URL for the old article, so I can't refer anyone to it because it'll move.

http://www.counterpunch.org/bombsense.html

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhg.livejournal.com
My god, if that's true then my opinion of journalists and journalism as a 'profession' has sunk even further that it was before.

That's like one of Damien Day's OBs from Drop The Dead Donkey!


J

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I've mailed CounterPunch asking for substantiation.

cheers,

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
...and I've dropped a line to the relevant BBC feedback e-mail address, asking if they've heard these claims, and if they've got any proof either way.

Wonder if I'll get a reply.

We have a denial...

Date: 2001-09-17 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
"CNN says that footage was forwarded to it by the Associated Press and Reuters, and it was dated Sept. 11, 2001. The network assumes that's correct. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, who condemned the terrorist attack, reportedly attributed any celebrations to a small band of children."

From here. Interesting wording, though. "The network assumes that's correct" - sounds like they're hedging their bets a little...?

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] countess-sophia.livejournal.com


Excuse me. Some of do have morals and professional ethics, thankyou.

Soph, who has been a journalist for 10 years.

Re: Cheering Palestinians - filmed in 1991?!

Date: 2001-09-14 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhg.livejournal.com
Oops - I seem to be guilty of the sort of thing I've been silently berating others for...


J

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