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For the purposes of this post, I don't really care who shot JFK; it's just a convenient mystery with which I can ask a question about truth.

Alice believes that Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK. She believes that Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Texas Book Depository, aimed a loaded rifle and shot JFK, at which point his head visibly exploded as seen in the Zapruder video.

Bert disagrees; he doesn't know for sure who shot JFK, but the one thing he's sure of is that Lee Harvey Oswald was not pointing a loaded rifle out of the window of the Texas Book Depository at the President at the fateful moment.

What do I believe? As I say, I neither know nor care, but there's one thing I know for sure: one of Alice or Bert is wrong. In sufficiently weird conditions both of them might be wrong, but one of them is wrong for sure. We may never know which of them is wrong, but at least one of them is definitely wrong.

Does anyone disagree with this?

Date: 2008-05-19 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palmer1984.livejournal.com
You can't know for certain which is true, but you can look at the evidence, and decide which is more likely to be true.

But that is dependent upon believing that there is a factual truth "out there" to be found (although we cannot always discover what it is); that truth is not entirely subjective. But surely, your claim that if there were an omnipotent observer, they could find out the truth implies that there is in an objective truth.

Date: 2008-05-19 01:42 pm (UTC)
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I, personally, am arrogant enough to use the term 'wrong' for something that I believe sufficiently strongly to be so, even though I'm agnostic about wehther or not there is some factual truth 'out there'. But I do acknowledge that I'm using it in this limited sense.

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