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Pope Benedict XVI is offering relief from purgatory to Roman Catholics who travel to Lourdes over the next year, the Vatican said yesterday.

Pilgrims to the shrine in south-west France will receive "plenary indulgences" from the Pontiff, which the Church says reduce the time spent being "washed" of sin after death. The indulgences will be available from this weekend until Dec 8, 2008.

[...] In August the Vatican opened an airline service offering pilgrims direct flights from Rome to Lourdes.

-- Daily Telegraph, 7 Dec 2007
From: [identity profile] indifferenthues.livejournal.com
Speaking as a sex-positive, bisexual activist, third-wave feminist, Catholic grandmother of Irish/Cuban decent, I think these old-fashioned customs and rituals are lovely [as long as not taken too seriously].

As a tween my family moved to North America (the NE region of the US) from Asia (HK formerly BCC now SAR) and I really, really dislike the drabness of modern western life.

Starting sometime around the dawn of the industrial revolution and finishing with a definitive BANG at WWI, life in Western Europe/North America seemed to be progressively drained of colour. From people lives, way of dress, houses, decorating styles and all, it's like everything went politely and genteelly grey!

Though it is not polite to mention it to the more hidebound theologian, how is all this with Lourdes with it's rituals of sacred water, a healing female deity and all that much different or more harmful than the custom of bathing in the Ganges?

At least in these old folk customs there is pageantry, colour, music, incense, art and all those other pretty things that are usually not included now in daily life. And how is that bad?
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
It would be good if the Church would issue more explicit guidance on which parts to take seriously.
From: [identity profile] indifferenthues.livejournal.com
It would be good if the Church would issue more explicit guidance on which parts to take seriously.

True, true . . . and of course they (the Curia) think they have . . . but honestly half the time what they write is so obscure, in such "lofty" language and has so little to do with the realities of daily parish & human life that I've even seen the priests politely rolling their eyes about many of the pronouncements.

As in "Yes, yes we understand, no girls can be 'Alter Boys . . . " so instead we have children who are "Alter Servers".

Heaven is high and the Emperor is far away.
From: [identity profile] lizw.livejournal.com
Starting sometime around the dawn of the industrial revolution and finishing with a definitive BANG at WWI, life in Western Europe/North America seemed to be progressively drained of colour.

I think you might like Eamon Duffy's book Stripping the Altars, if you haven't read it already. He talks about the effects of the English Reformation on ordinary churchgoers in terms very similar to the ones you use here, and (at least for me, having grown up in a context much less High Anglican than I ended up in) sheds a lot of light on surviving Catholic traditions in the process.

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