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I tend to assume that any campaign sufficiently high-profile to get celebrities on Breakfast News talking about it will be a waste of time. However, at a medium-length glance I can't see what's wrong with Make Poverty History - they're not making the mistake of asking for donations to give to the needy people of Africa, instead focussing on creating political pressure to a number of as far as I can tell wholly laudable goals. Am I missing something important? Or should I be making plans to visit Edinburgh around July 2nd?

Date: 2005-06-01 12:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibelian.livejournal.com
Fair enough. I just hope everybody can keep focussed. There's nothing more likely to damage the movement than a crowd of upstarts descending en masse to an EXTREMELY liberal city and shaking their fists at the residents (including the police, who are pretty good in Edinburgh) like some sort of "sticking it to the man" thing. All it will do is piss folk off and make the protesters look stupid.

People do get very wound up at these things and often end up shooting themselves in the foot. The political pressure they will be able to exert will be directly proportional to how organised they are and inversely proportional to how much inconvenience they cause ordinarty people.

Date: 2005-06-01 12:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] juliet
I went to the Make Poverty History all-night event at Westminster a month or so ago, and that seemed reasonably well set-up. Obviously it caused some disruption (streets shut for a while for the march bit, that sort of thing) but nothing major. That was a lot smaller than this, but http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/edinburgh/ indicates that they have planned things with an eye to the number of people they're hoping to get. The message from the police at http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/edinburgh/additional.shtml indicates that there will be a fair bit of traffic disruption/crowdedness, but obviously the organisers are working with the police & so on.

What *is* a bit worrying is that this:
http://www.live8live.com/whatsitabout.shtml (link under 'what you should do' goes to the above stuff about Edinburgh on the 2nd) seems to contradict this:
http://www.live8live.com/longwalktojustice.shtml
where it talks about a 'mass event on the 6th'. Which seems to be (from looking at the media coverage) specifically aimed at getting a million people to Gleneagles. This bit does not seem to be an awfully well thought out plan... let's hope the organisations involved sort themselves out sharpish, otherwise as you say, shooting-in-foot will occur. (my suspicion is that Uncle Bob has not done his homework properly & has become Carried Away, although I may be wrong).

Date: 2005-06-01 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com
Bob has most certainly not done his homework. He suggests that schoolchildren bunk off on the 6th, seemngly unaware that Scottish schools will have broken up by then...

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