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(geek as always)

After asking "Why is my quiet case so noisy?" on [livejournal.com profile] computerhelp, I tried an experiment last night. After running the machine until it got really loud, I opened up the case and put my finger on the CPU fan, stopping it briefly.

The noise stopped completely.

So, I need a new CPU fan that's not so loud. The question is, which fan should I buy?

(read Episode 1 of The Very Noisy Computer including detailed specs)

Date: 2005-02-01 01:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
Further thought:

I'm not sure whether replacing the fan will help. You say that the fan is very quiet when first switched on, but it gets louder and the CPU temp. goes up.

In your computerhelp post, gholam suggests the Athlon 64 needs OS support to reduce its voltage and clock rate. On my system the CPU does this automatically (or Linux does it with no configuration?) and this makes a difference - when the machine's been at 100% CPU for a while it's actually quite loud.

I think you need to make the CPU do power-saving when it's not busy; otherwise you'll need to get a very quiet, but also very powerful fan to extract heat you're generating needlessly. My guess is it's not doing this for whatever reason. Investigate ACPI and/or Cool'n'Quiet under Linux?

Date: 2005-02-01 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I already got powernow-k8 working on my motherboard. It doesn't seem to help. Also, 51 degrees isn't amazingly hot.

My current fan is I think louder than any fan should ever be, under any circumstances. And the Zalman fans are pretty quiet even when going at full whack. So it's probably worth it even if it isn't a total fix - it should bring the system into "can bear to work on it" range...

Date: 2005-02-01 02:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
Fair enough.

5625 RPM sounds like a lot to me though.

Date: 2005-02-01 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
what would you expect? One problem with the big Zalman fans is that they tend to run at 2000 RPM, which is so slow that some motherboards treat it as "not spinning at all" and start signalling fan failure.

Date: 2005-02-01 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
I can't get lm-sensors to work. If your question is not rhetorical, please reply and I'll reboot and look in the BIOS.

Date: 2005-02-01 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
Me neither, to my great frustration. Yes, please do let me know. Are you using a stock fan then?

Date: 2005-02-01 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
Yep, the pundit one is very quiet at low RPM anyway, and is also specially shaped to fit inside the case. The fans and heatsinks that came with the CPUs went in the bin, though.

Date: 2005-02-01 09:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
2884 RPM on the desktop machine (another Pundit) after half an hour of playing video. Mind you, temperature at 47C. Hmm.

Date: 2005-02-02 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selectnone.livejournal.com
My motherboard has an optional voice-post, and it bitches at me about fan failures when it's turned on.

A fanless PSU and CPU just confuse it, poor thing...

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