Black box voting

[ciphergoth]

SoCalDem has done a statistical analysis...on several swing states, and EVERY STATE that has Electronic Voting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results. In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their E-Voting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error.

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[wechsler.livejournal.com]

Then you'd expect it to 5% wrong everywhere, or effectively random noise. This is why correlations are being noted, not raw percentages.

[lovingboth]

No, it will vary. There's no shame in voting TEO in Redneck County, Nevada: it's what all your neighbours are doing. But in somewhere more split, people will fib to pollsters.

I'm not disputing Diebold may be evil enough to do it, but they'd also have to be spectacularly stupid to just say 'add 5% to the evil vote everywhere we think we can get away with it...'

[ciphergoth.livejournal.com]

It will vary, of course, but wechsler specifically mentioned correlations.

And I think we will find

1) that the evidence suggests that Diebold has done exactly that, and

2) that they will not have been spectacularly stupid, but that they correctly predict that any effort to interest the voting public in what will seem like "another hanging chad incident" will fail, and thus that they will totally get away with the fraud they've perpetrated.

The bad guys are often more blatant than you'd ever imagine in your worst nightmares, and they get away with it all the time. Shit, if Bush can get away with blatantly lying to start a war, what can't they get away with?

[wechsler.livejournal.com]

Being incredibly blatant is one of their core tactics. When accused of something, their response is generally along the lines of "No-one in their right mind would do anything that stupid/blatant/unethical."

And it works, because people believe that.

[jhg.livejournal.com]

"All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility;"

-Hitler, Mein Kampf

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

[wechsler.livejournal.com]

Illustrious company Bush keeps. Thanks for that link.

[vvalkyri.livejournal.com]

At this point I figure it's more important to work to the future rathe r than to figure on fighting it. Strange what a couple days does.

I posted a link to this post, though.

It wouldn't be so much 'add 5% wherever we can find it ' as 'tally the votes normally until vote #x, and then flip one to Bush every Y votes.

Dunno. It's all very disheartening, and the fact that it was this close indicates some major change needed in the Dem message anyway.