The abolition of democracy in the US
Jan. 22nd, 2004 12:10 pmThe SERVE system might appear to work flawlessly in 2004, with no successful attacks detected. It is as unfortunate as it is inevitable that a seemingly successful voting experiment in a U.S. presidential election involving seven states would be viewed by most people as strong evidence that SERVE is a reliable, robust, and secure voting system. Such an outcome would encourage expansion of the program by FVAP in future elections, or the marketing of the same voting system by vendors to jurisdictions all over the United States, and other countries as well. However, the fact that no successful attack is detected does not mean that none occurred. Many attacks, especially if cleverly hidden, would be extremely difficult to detect, even in cases when they change the outcome of a major election. Furthermore, the lack of a successful attack in 2004 does not mean that successful attacks would be less likely to happen in the future; quite the contrary, future attacks would be more likely, both because there is more time to prepare the attack, and because expanded use of SERVE or similar systems would make the prize more valuable. In other words, a "successful" trial of SERVE in 2004 is the top of a slippery slope toward even more vulnerable systems in the future.-- conclusion (g) of "A Security Analysis of the Secure Electronic Registration and Voting Experiment (SERVE)", Dr. David Jefferson, Dr. Aviel D. Rubin, Dr. Barbara Simons, Dr. David Wagner (emphasis mine)
Update: BBC News story indicating that for the Department of Defence, doing the impossible is all in a day's work, coverage in SFGate, New York Times, Slashdot.
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Date: 2004-01-22 05:53 am (UTC)What he said. The logical inference seems to be
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Date: 2004-01-22 06:35 am (UTC)Camelot issue paper receipts.
Few people would have a problem with identifying themselves to Camelot as a lottery winner.
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Date: 2004-01-22 06:42 am (UTC)Quoting from the report
Date: 2004-01-22 06:45 am (UTC)Re: Quoting from the report
Date: 2004-01-22 07:48 am (UTC)from reports of colleagues, a common failing of postal voting systems already, with or without consent.
"voting systems must not provide receipts, because they would violate anonymity"
It is a requirement and fact of the current UK system that exactly how each voter cast their ballot can be traced if there is a court order to do so. The fact that a voter voted (either in person or by post) is available on request after election day for a specified period (which ends with the destruction of the paper record).
Re: Quoting from the report
Date: 2004-01-22 08:17 am (UTC)I am reminded of...
Date: 2004-01-22 07:52 am (UTC)The mother *knows* that the child is hers,
the father *believes* that the child is his,
the child has *faith* that they are its parents.
We can have faith in the results produced by an electronic viting system; we may believe that it has displayed the correct result. We can never *know* that it is the true result.
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Date: 2004-01-22 08:19 am (UTC)Re: I am reminded of...
Date: 2004-01-22 08:31 am (UTC)Re: I am reminded of...
Date: 2004-01-22 09:08 am (UTC)This comment got a bit big, so I turned it into a post here
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Date: 2004-01-22 06:04 am (UTC)Trials test the workability of a system, but not the security.
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Date: 2004-01-22 05:40 am (UTC)Square of paper, pencil, booth, ballot box.
Fee free to count electronically; just retain the audit trail that comes from physical contemporaneous marked records.
now going to follow link and read full article...
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Date: 2004-01-22 06:03 am (UTC)Vote early, vote often, vote the graveyard.
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Date: 2004-01-22 07:09 am (UTC)can't we all just pretend it works?
Date: 2004-01-22 11:35 am (UTC)It seems typical to me that this is being pushed by the Pentagon, because the Bush squad is going all out to make sure the kind of voters they want to see are represented (in this case assuming soldiers would vote Republican). I wonder if there is some kind of cabal working on this in a state of high secrecy (controlled by Grand Moff Cheney, I'd imagine)? The Republican were also the ones pushing for all ballot counting devices become electronic, which sent tons of money to the companies designing them ... and gives the Republicans special knowledge to cook the books? I can't imagine how the so-called paper trail (the voters get a record of how they voted?) would ever be useful in the forms I've heard described.
But subtle changes can also be done in a very low tech, yet effective, fashion. The Florida Republican Secretary of State purged many legal voters names from the polls because they were similar to those of convicted felons (and the black vote is considered to be Democratic). How could these people possibly challenge their removal from the voting lists effectively the day of the election? "Sorry, check back tomorrow." The success that this tiny change had in the outcome of a national election must surely have energized the Rs, for now we see they've gone to mid-census gerrymandering to encourage that more Republicans are elected to Congress. It's truly incredible, and as a citizen my only hope is that the courts will clean things up ... but their pace is too slow and they're not doing a good job. I'm so frustrated. It's an ugly time to live here.
Re: can't we all just pretend it works?
Date: 2004-01-22 04:09 pm (UTC)yanking my chain from across a continent and an ocean
Date: 2004-01-22 04:56 pm (UTC)I don't like to be specific about where I work in LJ as I consider it a too transparent forum (although I violated this dictum before I got this job - not thinking it would come through - proof of which can be found in earlier months).
I live in Seattle. I do software quality assurance, mostly for internet companies, never for The Borg. I could be much better at my job, as is made abundantly clear by a lot of the stuff I read through your journal. One of the big voting companies is in the locale, but I don't work there, although this is a damn small community (at least in QA) and I know folks almost everywhere. Just trying to make sure stuff is secure at my own company is plenty of work, although it's not what I'm specifically tasked with. Amusingly enough, I'm doing this work with the peculiar skills granted by years of studying political philosophy - giving me no talent at SQL server administration but plenty at getting a head of steam over the state of the real world.
If you want any more specifics, feel free to contact me off-LJ. And apologies for the horrible grammar and spelling errors in my original response - as a QA person I'm ashamed to see so many in just one post.