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(This was originally a comment in [livejournal.com profile] webcowgirl's journal, but I wanted to share.)

The New York Times recently published a column by one David Brooks in which he alleges that
those who oppose the neoconservative agenda are anti-Semitic. (More coverage: Talking Points, This Modern World)

I look forward to the Times carrying my rebuttal in next week's edition, in which I argue that Brooks only says that because he likes to fuck pigs.

Date: 2004-01-08 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-pipistre.livejournal.com
the logic of that is actually quite stunningly bad. i'd never accuse someone who didn't like me of being anti-semitic, even though it's a 'valid' accusation as i am technically Jewish...

Date: 2004-01-08 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-purplekaz150.livejournal.com
Well, I'm Jewish and I think Mr Bush is a tosser.

Date: 2004-01-08 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biog.livejournal.com
I had originally planned to move back to America about two years ago, but I hate the way many americans seemed to be so paranoid now & rather frightened of liberal views, so it's stay in the UK for me.

Date: 2004-01-08 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
I particularly like the bit about "neo- means Jewish". SINCE WHEN? IN WHAT LANGUAGE? Neo- means NEW, you fucktard! "Jewish Conservative" would be "judeo-conservative".

By the same argument, what does he think "neo-Nazi" means?

Date: 2004-01-08 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ishkhara.livejournal.com
I don't hate Bush because I'm anti-semitic. I hate him because he's a complete f**kwit. Go on - eat another pretzel, bozo! ;)

I'm not sure about the pig-fucking business. I doubt he could manage to satisy one.

Date: 2004-01-08 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xquiq.livejournal.com
*mind boggles*

That makes spectacularly little sense. Surely he must have realised that his logical inference just well, wasn't? When I started reading I thought it was a piss-take due to the almost complete absence of valid logic.

Date: 2004-01-08 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekumquat.livejournal.com
It's obvious, innit?

Neoconservatives = Christian Right = Mr Bush and bunch of other loonies = people who know all Muslims are terrorists out to destroy The World as We Know It (tm) = people who treat Muslims such as Palestinians as sub-human = Israeli government = Israel's right to exist = all Jews

Therefore anti neo-cons = anti Jews
QED!

Do try to keep up.

And don't forget: these are the End Times, so we have to have war across the world starting in the Middle East, so that the aforementioned Christians can be Raptured and go to heaven, and therefore Israel has to piss off its neighbours enough to cause World War III, so thus Shrub has to prod that into happening so he can be saved. Ergo neocons and Jews have the same interests and are obviously the same thing.

I knew there was a reason I gave up reading US papers.

Do you think I could get every American on LJ to vote for me as President in 6 years time? They and I would all be old enough by then and there'll probably be enough of them for me to win...

From: [identity profile] sibelian.livejournal.com

On both sides.

People should be judged on what they do, not what they are.

This means that judging all Jews as the same because the are Jewish is bad. That is anti-semitism.

Judging one Jew as bad because he has done something bad is not anti-semitic because is not a judgement of ALL Jews.


This is the level we must talk on if we are to adequately communicate with these morons, assuming that they are amenable to communication in any way.

I am gradually becoming more and more convinced that locking step with them in any kind of debate is a waste of time.

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