This. You (ciphergoth) want to believe cryonics is plausible. That's fine; I don't want you not to believe. I think your passion on the subject may be blinding you to the fact that most people who don't think it's plausible aren't all that passionate about it.
I don't think it's plausible. I also don't think it's implausible, still less impossible. I don't think we know enough yet to judge. I think the path there navigates chaotic ant country, and involves speculation about proposed technologies that most certainly aren't science ... but I don't see most cryonicists claiming that they are in any way that can be debunked.
By and large - and this certainly goes for what I've read of any of the pro-cryonics documents that you've linked to in this discussion, the cryonicists get the current science correct. They also speculate abut the future science, but not in terms that allow debunking. This is fine, and presumably encouraging for you, because you want to believe that cryonics could work and you won't find anyone able to prove that it doesn't. But it doesn't make the absence of a debunking strong evidence for cryonics working.
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Date: 2010-02-15 07:40 am (UTC)I don't think it's plausible. I also don't think it's implausible, still less impossible. I don't think we know enough yet to judge. I think the path there navigates chaotic ant country, and involves speculation about proposed technologies that most certainly aren't science ... but I don't see most cryonicists claiming that they are in any way that can be debunked.
By and large - and this certainly goes for what I've read of any of the pro-cryonics documents that you've linked to in this discussion, the cryonicists get the current science correct. They also speculate abut the future science, but not in terms that allow debunking. This is fine, and presumably encouraging for you, because you want to believe that cryonics could work and you won't find anyone able to prove that it doesn't. But it doesn't make the absence of a debunking strong evidence for cryonics working.