Star Wars

Nov. 29th, 2008 01:48 pm
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[livejournal.com profile] lovelybug has never seen Star Wars! And last weekend we were supposed to watch The Empire Strikes Back on TV, only I managed to screw it up. I should fix it. But I need your help. Original, as remastered from a Laserdisc, or special edition with whizzy digital special effects and Greedo shooting first?

[Poll #1306123]

Date: 2008-11-29 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ditzy-pole.livejournal.com
Haven't seen Star Wars so can't help...

Date: 2008-11-29 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barking-watcher.livejournal.com
The original version un-adulterated, because everyone knows Han shot 1st.

Date: 2008-11-29 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] palmer1984.livejournal.com
I don't know, I haven't seen it either.

Date: 2008-11-29 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] yoyoangel.livejournal.com
I can't believe her education is so lacking! Poor love.

I voted original version first, because it makes seeing the special edition exciting in a 'spot-the-difference' way, and because, actually, the original versions are pretty bloody impressive, effects-wise, and are an interesting historical document for that reason.

Date: 2008-11-29 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martling.livejournal.com
I think it's worth seeing the special edition of the first one at least, because it actually fixes bugs rather than just adding glitz. Like Jabba being a fat dude rather than an alien slug because they couldn't afford the effects.

Date: 2008-11-29 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deviblue.livejournal.com
watch the originals them the prequals followed by the re-remastered(because it too two gos to get jabba right in a new hope

Date: 2008-11-29 03:04 pm (UTC)
andrewducker: (Default)
From: [personal profile] andrewducker
The remastered DVD is different from the remastered movie - Han and Greedo shoot at the same time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first
Edited Date: 2008-11-29 03:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-29 03:04 pm (UTC)
simont: A picture of me in 2016 (Default)
From: [personal profile] simont
The limited-edition DVDs containing the original theatre versions: they're OK except that they're in letterbox rather than anamorphic widescreen. So on a 4:3 TV you wouldn't know the difference, but on a widescreen TV you'll see a tiny image in the middle of the large display. If your TV (like mine) has a zoom feature to correct precisely this problem, you can use that, but in Ep4 and Ep6 this will have the undesirable side effect of pushing Greedo's and Jabba's subtitles off the bottom of the screen.

I corrected this at one point by reading the original movies off the DVDs, mucking about with mencoder, and burning myself new DVDs in which the picture has been expanded into anamorphic widescreen. So one can watch those DVDs on a widescreen TV with the subtitles in the right place, or they work fine on a 4:3 TV too. Also, it turned out the result looks noticeably superior to using my TV's zoom function on the original DVDs, because mencoder's picture-scaling algorithm is much better than the real-time one running in my TV.

So, those are the DVDs I'd recommend to anyone wanting to watch Star Wars. I could in principle lend them, except that I expect the logistics would be horrendous.
Edited Date: 2008-11-29 03:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-11-29 03:07 pm (UTC)
zotz: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zotz
There is a DVD version of the original cut of Star Wars. It came out a few years back as an extra with some multidisk edition of the film.

The Han-shooting-second bit undermines the character, in my view - you're not really supposed to trust him at that stage, so him being heroic at the end comes as more of a surprise.

Date: 2008-11-29 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
B/c of the Han first thing I'd go for original for Episode IV, but I really liked the change of the party scene in Episode VI at the end, and thus prefer the special edition.

Date: 2008-11-29 05:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redcountess
I have videos of the original films, if that's of any use?

Date: 2008-11-29 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seph-hazard.livejournal.com
We have the lot on video, and this has inspired me to re-watch them [grin] Though I suspect if I offered to lend you my videos you'd snort at me in derision, so I won't :-p

Date: 2008-11-29 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sahilaelf.livejournal.com
Just see THE MOVIE...if you didnt see it first time round you cant travel back in time ...they/s/he missed a great movie Its like hearing an LP in 1970 vs a CD which has been remastered and removed all the scratches you loved but didnt know were there until someone changed the format. I vote for the original...enjoy

Date: 2008-11-29 11:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
I can "lend" you a 1080p 2.33 AC3 H264 rip of all three if you like. It's the special edition though. I don't have a huge opinion on original vs special edition (apart from the Greedo thing); I don't think the differences are too significant.

Date: 2008-11-30 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncoxon.livejournal.com
It's Star Wars, and as such, either version is fine. Both are brilliant.

Date: 2008-11-30 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trishpiglet.livejournal.com
I don't think the differences significantly alter the film xxx

Date: 2008-11-30 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com
Rips of the original laserdiscs any use?

Date: 2008-11-30 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lovingboth
There's a fanedit which removes some of Lucas's crap, keeps the better 'Special Edition' effects and gets "who shot first" 'right'.

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