Date: 2006-08-24 02:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-08-24 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drdoug.livejournal.com
Right result, wrong reasons if you ask me. A planet is now "a celestial body that (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.".

So in the (admittedly unlikely) event that we discover, say, a twin Jupiter-Saturn size pair in orbit, they wouldn't count as planets. Nonsense. And if you apply criterion (c) rigorously, Neptune isn't a planet either since it hasn't cleared Pluto-Charon. Except a footnote to the resolution after "planet" says "The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.", so it is a planet by fiat of the IAU even if you might reasonably argue it doesn't meet their criteria.

A complete mess, if you ask me.

I note, at least that the potential debate over whether celestial bodies which have not cleared their orbits should be dwarfs or dwarves has been avoided by dubbing them "dwarf planets".*

* The seven dwarf planets are: Doc, Grumpy, Happy, Sneezy, Bashful, Sleepy and Dopey.

Date: 2006-08-24 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wriggler.livejournal.com
Could it be argued that the International Astronomical Union is a Mickey Mouse organisation?

Date: 2006-08-24 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-maenad.livejournal.com
It was unclear how Pluto's demotion might affect the mission of NASA's New Horizons spacecraft, which earlier this year began a 961/27-year journey to the oddball object to unearth more of its secrets.

I love that 'it was unclear'. What do they think they're going to do with it, push the self-destruct button now Pluto's been reclassified?

Date: 2006-08-24 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyboot.livejournal.com
Bastards! Pluto is still a planet, whether they say so or not. So is Ceres for that matter.

Date: 2006-08-24 02:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] babysimon
From TFA:
Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's.

Wow! It may not be a planet but I'm sure impressed.

Date: 2006-08-24 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com
Well planets can't turn corners pretty much by definition...

Date: 2006-08-24 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com
I found this quite dishearteningly hierarchical. Bloody scientists, what do they think they're doing going round DEFINING things, it's a disgrace, back in my day we had our planets and we knew what they were and we were grateful for them, grumble grumble grumble...

Date: 2006-08-24 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com
Oh, and as an aside, did you have a go at OK Cupid? If not, I can do it for you some time if you fancy, just grab me and let me know what you want. Details in the same place as usual.

Date: 2006-08-24 04:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2006-08-24 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pavlos.livejournal.com
Way to go IAU, get rid of some clutter!

Date: 2006-08-24 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com
I like to think of it as that we haven't lost a planet, but gained three dwarf planets.

Date: 2006-08-25 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] simm42.livejournal.com
I'm sure holst feels vindicated now :)

Date: 2006-08-26 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
There should be an advert on OK Cupid put there by [livejournal.com profile] skibbley...

Date: 2006-08-29 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com
Jolly good! Have suddnly clicked that PolyDay is the same day that Peaches plays at The Forum, which seems entirely appropropriate.

Once more with spelling

Date: 2006-09-02 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] webcowgirl.livejournal.com
Saw this icon and it made me think of you:

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