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I watched an episode of Blake's 7 the other day which seemed to have a very familiar plot. Godlike superbeings pluck two major characters - most usually the main character and their main opponent - out of their spaceships to force them into a mano a mano duel, in which they are armed with more primitive weapons than their familiar blasters. The fight is to be to the death, but the hero, having evaded the villain's trickery and gained the upper hand, refuses to kill the villain at the end; this turns out to win the approval of the godlike superbeings, who let them both go.

I feel sure that this exact plot has been replicated many times by cheap TV SF, but we could between us think of only one other example, an episode of Star Trek. Does anyone know of any others?

For that matter, could someone arrange for some godlike superbeings to pay us a visit?

Date: 2002-10-03 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skx.livejournal.com
Star Treck

 IIRC there were at least two episodes of treck which had this exact same plot, unfortunately I don't recall the titles and google didn't help.

 The first episode involved Kirk, who used some sulpher to make explosives, against a lizard like man.

 The second episode involved Picard against another reptilean beast. In that case it was the reptileans idea, he kepts saying 'foo & bar at location' - and inspired Picard to translate with pictures. The idea was that the two of them would fight a third enemy and in doing so form bonds of friendship.

Date: 2002-10-03 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] conflux.livejournal.com
I was a child when I saw this episode but even then I thought it was an ST rip off. Space 1999 had a similar plot once when the advanced beings were replaced by a small clump of
improbably intelligent trees who were the leaders of a plant dominated world. Both sides got 3 people each but otherwise it was the same plot.

Date: 2002-10-03 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mangros.livejournal.com
B7's 'Duel' appears to be a lift of Trek's 'Arena'. I'm sure that the idea had been around before Trek; most probably in a short story or something.

Buck Rogers has a go at this too, with 'Time of the Hawk': the first episode of the sinister second season. Which was lacking in space casino/disco/futuristic bars, but gained some geniuinely scary serious stories. Interesting to note that Gil Gerard was partly responsible for this change - he was sick of his character's flip attitude and wisecracks.

Back to the point. Rogers crosses paths with a humanoid bird who hates the human race due to Earth's colonists wiping his tribe out years ago. He is wanted for random attacks on Earth ships.
They get down to fisticuffs, and the event is overseen by a strange wizard type. As the series' number one champion I am embarrassed to admit that I haven't watched this one for ages, and so can't elaborate. Anyway, Rogers has 'Hawk' at his mercy, but refuses to kill him. Hawk is captured and tried, and after Rogers intervenes, becomes a regular character.

Date: 2002-10-03 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gnomatron.livejournal.com
I wonder where the plot originates from? it's fairly obvious, i guess, but there's probably an older, and better, piece of prior art than Star Trek.

Date: 2002-10-03 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sublevel3.livejournal.com
The same scenario also happened in an episode of Farscape.

Date: 2002-10-03 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sabledemon.livejournal.com
Going back to Trek things - DS9 also had same sort of thing with the big beings in the wormhole taking over Sisko and his son, Jake, to fight it out between good and evil.

Date: 2002-10-03 02:11 pm (UTC)
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It is, of course, an instance of 20 Things That Never Happen In Star Trek, Number 10: "The Enterprise is captured by a vastly superior alien intelligence
which does not put them on trial."

Date: 2002-10-04 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliegrrrl.livejournal.com
Aack... Season one Blake's 7 had a number of weak episodes... actually that episode has a few good moments, like the conversation between Travis and his mutoid assistant, who used to be a rich and powerful woman but has been transformed into a mindless slave. But I'd greatly recommend skipping ahead to season two, when Terry Nation was no longer dashing off all the scripts in a crazed fog!

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