ciphergoth | yay Gigantor!

Gigantor was very much fun. Very many pretty people. Much good music. As usual when I've got a cold, I didn't dress up and I drank relatively little, but I still danced quite a lot. 'Twas good.

Yesterday I did some hand washing. If I thought I had job security at the moment, I'd offer to pay a hard-up goth in return for doing some of my hand washing, because I never get around to it, but I have to remind myself it's really not as hard as all that.

I've admitted I'm never going to get around to making my own tamper-evident collar, and mailed a fetish leather maker to ask how much it would cost to get them to make it.

Now I'm working on Chapter 5 of Daemen's PhD thesis some more. It's quite hard going, but it does lay the basis for modern theory about provable security against linear and differential cryptanalysis. Later today I must do some work on the BiCon booking form, and also sort some stuff out for our Big Party on March 30th.

Update: none of this clubgoing has had any success in dislodging the tunes from "...Once more with feeling!" from my head.

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Yesterday I did some hand washing. If I thought I had job security at the moment, I'd offer to pay a hard-up goth in return for doing some of my hand washing, because I never get around to it, but I have to remind myself it's really not as hard as all that.

Now that's what I call indolence! Just run the water warm, grab the soap, hold your hands under the water a moment, rub them together, then put the soap down. Lather, rinse, repeat. I feel utterly luxurious when I get Jus to wash my back - but hands?

Thuough maybe it would be a nice subby kind of thing to do :)

If thier quote is too high, give me a shout.

They can't do it at all.

Thanks for your interest, unfortunately it doesn't sound like something that we could make.

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Really your best bet would be plastic or cloth. If you did this with leather it would be in a pretty poor state, especially after washing etc.

I'll chuck you an email...

There reply is strange to say the least, just for the benefit of anyone else interested in the project I'll quickly say why:

Leather will survive water/washign quite happliy if treated properly I have a trench coat and numerous boots to proof this /* gloves and such survive the washign machine and are a lot happier after a bit of leather cream */ Ok don't soak in the bath but hardly a major problem.

Non-leather might survive for longer, a plastic or leatherette would be an option. Cloth certainly, though I thing having a thickish cloth collar drying out around your neck would be far more unpleasant.

Strange people.

Cloth's not really tempting, I agree. Plastic seems like an option, but I suspect leather would look better and be more comfortable - if you reckon it can be made durable enough for the shower, that sounds OK.

Leather, even crappy leather, washes just fine. I used to wear leather bracelets (the kind that tie on and don't come off til they fall off. I would buy one each year at Strawberry Fair and wear it for a year, at which point it would mystically fall off in time for the fair so I had to get a new one.
So, unless you're planning to keep someone collared (or be collared yourself) for over a year, you shouldn't have a problem.
Only snag I can envisage is that if someone's going to wear it for a long time, damp leather against the skin can chafe, and also if it's tightish it might be hard to clean underneath it.

Much what I was thinking.
Certainly leather I've washed which has dried out a bit has been fine after oiling.

The point about chafing is relevant though, I think the simplest answer is don't make it too tight, and the person wearing it has to remember to dry the collar as well as themselves.

Sounds fair.

I agree, I saw it a while ago and I still find myself humming the tunes :-)

yay Gigantor!

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