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Paul Crowley ([personal profile] ciphergoth) wrote2009-01-06 10:53 am

LJ lays off over 70% of staff

20 of LiveJournal's 28 staff laid off (propogated from [livejournal.com profile] dennyd; Valleywag may not be a reliable source)

That's what I should have done over the holidays - started building a lifeboat...

Update: Another report says 13 out of 30 staff; this post is collating links (propogated from [livejournal.com profile] pw201 via [livejournal.com profile] palmer1984).

[identity profile] deviblue.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
if true i wouldn't give it long before this place starts falling apart.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
LJ won't die overnight. I'm holding out for the Dreamwidth project to provide a new home for my content, such as it is.

The numbers in the Valleywag report aren't accurate, but the bulk of it is. Something closer to the source here:
http://xb95.livejournal.com/635394.html

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Why, what's different about Dreamwidth?

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm personally in favour for technical reasons (e.g. long-overdue porting of the codebase to work with Apache2) and practical reasons (e.g. the separation of the friends-list concept into two directional concepts), plus because I believe that the particular people involved in starting the project have a reasonable chance of starting it with a large enough snowball for it to (re)build a practically-useful amount of the network effect which has made LJ worth using when DJ, IJ, GJ etc are not.

I also consider them a lot more likely to take major patches, to add features such as the federation stuff you're interested in for instance.

There's also a load of political stuff about how they're going to structure themselves as a company/organisation/community, but my opinion on that is mostly of the 'wait and see how it works out in practise' variety.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't understand why everyone's so excited about it then. It sounds exactly like LJ did when it started, and without either a technical or legal framework in place to prevent it, there seems every reason to suppose it will suffer a similar fate.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 02:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps you should read the bits on their site which I reference in the last paragraph then. They do appear to have given that stuff some thought, I'm just not particularly interested in it personally so I can't give you any detail.

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
http://dreamwidth.org/principles.html has shiny words of admittedly vague good intentions.

I can't find the bits of the mailing list where this stuff was discussed in more detail right now, and it's possible that some of what I remember was from the early IRC discussions anyway.

It could all still go hideously wrong, of course, but at least it sounds like they're going to try to avoid it doing so. *shrug*
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[identity profile] yoyoangel.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
What do you recommend for archiving one's LJ, then? Just in case...

[identity profile] lolliepopp.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
great minds and that, I was about to ask the same thing!

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[identity profile] cairmen.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Lj Archive seems to be pretty good.
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[identity profile] hairyears.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
But does it pick up comments as well as the posts?

[identity profile] emarkienna.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

[identity profile] just-becky.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that a feature of Livejournal I have not yet found or a 3rd party app/script thingy? Any chance of a link to it either way?

[identity profile] just-becky.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent, thank you for that.

Now my biggest concern is how to stay in touch with the people on my friends list, should LJ implode at some point. Due to excessive amounts of geography between us, LJ is my primary method of keeping in contact with pretty much every friend I have. Should the worst happen its unlikely everyone I know will move as one to some alternative service.
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[identity profile] cairmen.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Facebook or email would be my suggestions - probably both for safety! If you put up a screened post asking for contact details LJ Archive should automatically archive it.

[identity profile] elfy.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
this is acutally what scares me most, i guess i'd loose track of many, many friends :(