ciphergoth | Half-moving to London... TODAY!

Half-moving to London... TODAY!

Summary: I'm moving in with

kitty_goth today! I plan to spend roughly alternate fortnights in London and Edinburgh. This is so that I can experience the joys of both cities as much as possible, and so that I can spend more time with all three of my main partners:

purplerabbits in Edinburgh, and

ergotia and

lilithmagna in London. It will probably also mean I get to see more of sweetie

kboyd in Cambridge. This is possible because I work from home, so I can even work on the train between the two cities. Kitty already has broadband, so I'll barely miss a moment of connectivity...

This is the fourth plan I've made to this end. Moving in with

kitty_goth in the flat owned by

bootpunk was the first, but at one stage that didn't seem possible. The second was moving in with

ergotia and

lilithmagna, but there were delays in the room I planned to take becoming free, and I started to feel I'd rather fix their kitchen first before moving in. The third was

lolliepopp,

sweinhodge,

ajva and I all getting a shared place in Leytonstone, but landlord-fucking-about put paid to that. Now me and Kitty have resolved the hurdles in the original plan and we're back on!

So I'm getting a lunchtime train to London today, meeting up with Kitty at Kings Cross, and picking up the keys. I'm planning on staying in London this visit for just under a fortnight, leaving on Tuesday 11 March.

ergotia and I are hoping to make Tenebrae on Friday, where it seems a lot of people will be.

It's going to be so very cool. I'm looking forward to living with

kitty_goth a lot, it's a lovely flat about ten minutes walk from the Slimelight, and I'm going to see so much more of so many of you!

UULP: laughing out loud, everyone should read

adjectivemarcus's answers to the "I am, I think, I know" meme.

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Come to Duckie on Saturday! Please?

You go to Duckie? That's practically our local! (Okay haven't actually been there for ages but still).

Tell me why you like Duckie so much? I have been twice. Each time it has been so crowded dancing has been impossible and there has been nowhere to sit down. The music is OK but the Divine David does not dj there anymore, right? and dancing is impossible and it is too loud to talk over. Nobody dresses up so standing and posing is a bit of a non - starter as well, and it is not very cruisy either. OK, Amy Lame is cool and the atmosphere is, I suppose, pansexual, whatever that means in terms of a club, but.....

I shall admit that I wouldn't bother going on a Saturday due to some of things you mentioned. Sundays were good though. However I am now at the stage in my life when I have realised that Sundays are even **better** days for lying in front of the telly watching Eastenders omnibus/crap that you've taped during the week/drinking yourself into oblivion on yr very own sofa.

Cheers!

Well, last time we went we got somewhere to sit, danced, talked and drank. The music was fabulous, the cabaret insane and no, no-one was posing.

All, to my mind, good reasons.

I dont understand why my entirely genuine query has been answered with sarcasm and defensiveness. Your first sentence answers me perfectly.

Datapoint: I see neither sarcasm nor defensiveness in Marcus's post.

I don't understand why you think I'm being sarcastic or defensive.

I've no idea how long ago you went, but I last went towards the end of last year with Sanj and Claire and found it to be as I stated - I listed the points as counters to your experience. You found it crowded when you went, we found it not so crowded when we went. You found it impossible to sit - we found seats. You comment that Divine David no longer DJs there, well he actually no longer DJs at all and the Readers Wifes are still the DJs as they were all along, and I really like their music choices.

I think it's a great club. I'm not saying it's to everyone's taste, but to my knowledge Paul's not been and as we're going in numbers it's a good opportunity to check it out.

*goes back to his data entry*

Ergotia likes to pose. I think she thought you were having a go, but I think you thought that 'poseurs=bad' = axiomatic.

See below. ;o)

I don't think Marcus realised that you consider the option of posing to be a *positive* thing. I think he was assuming you meant "Oh God! How I hate poseurs".

A simple misunderstanding, I think. Goth and non-goth culture collide.

PVC-clad kittens, anyone?

Well yes, posing is not the only thing I go clubbing for, but if you cant sit down, dance or talk then it is certainly an alternative enjoyable clubbing activity. I did also say I have always found the music to be OK, and I am entirely prepared to believe this club can be enjoyable, hence the query.

Yes indeed. In actual fact, I agree with you about Duckie. Any time I've ever been there I've sworn not to go back due to its overcrowding/overloudness/not very much funness (as I see it). So you have an ally here. Having said that, the music is good - I'm willing to wager there is nowhere else in London where you can hear Rebel Rebel and the old Grange Hill theme tune (the one with the flying sausage) played back to back.

It doesn't make up for how otherwise taxing I find the venue, though. I shall be at

adjectivemarcus's Friday evening (pub) celebration instead. :o)

*shrugs* This is the reason to do two things - so people can decide.

See you Friday!

LL as usual I take it?

If anyone's counting, I agree with you and

ergotia about the negative aspects of Duckie, but there's something undefinable about the atmosphere there that I like, which means that I'll enjoy myself as long as I don't go there too often.

Hence I'll be there on Saturday (and won't be around on Friday, because I'll be in Oxford with my sister).

So, what does "Posing" mean when you say it in a positive light? I've only ever heard the word as a pejorative, as in "poser"="faker/status climber." In this context is it closer to "standing around looking pretty/dramatic?"

(It's been maybe six years since I've been out clubbing in Great Britain, and I only went a couple times to the goth clubs with

ciphergoth in maybe 1997. So this might be completely obvious, to anyone who frequents the right places )

I would say that's right. I think it's a bit like reclaiming the word "queer" from the pejorative sense to make it work for you, see.

As long as you get there early you can get seats and thus have room to dance. I don't think we really go for the posing or cruising - we tend to just dance. I think the music is probably more to our taste than yours; maybe that's the difference.

I don't think it's the music so much as clubbing habits, really. You tend to get really into the music and don't seem to be that bothered if not much conversation goes on (I think - just my humble impression), whereas I get a bit hacked off after a while if I can't talk to people. I suspect the same to be true of

ergotia too.

Yes, you're right - I go to the pub in order to talk to people, I go clubbing in order to dance. Which is why I rarely enjoy clubs when I don't like the music, and rarely enjoy pubs where the music's too loud to hear conversation.

I certainly don't think of Duckie as a place to have conversations in. :)

I couldn't possibly agree more.

Pub - chat / games
Club - music & dance

And, ideally - no TV's should be present in either.

J

Well there goes the neighbourhood! I'd better be invited round for tea and cakes IF YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR YOU :)

Hurray, welcome to London! Hope to see you at the weekend...

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Hurray, welcome to London! Hope to see you at the weekend...

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I'd heard that this was happening...

Probably see you Friday, then!

you out and about this weekend then?

looks like Tenebrae on Friday and Duckie on Saturday so far, you?

slimes on sat I think.

Oh right, that's interesting news, I guess I would have heard if I'd taken the time to talk to you in the pub last night.
I'm going to London for three months from early April, I'm going to be working for Kodak in their chemistry labs in Harrow, as part of my PhD.
Should be nice to see you around while I'm down there.

wish i still lived in London
Or Edinburgh
Or anywhere in the UK for that matter...
I miss Slimelight

but landlord-fucking-about put paid to that.

Ooh, this must be a Britishism because I have never heard the words "put paid" together like that.

Does anyone have any clue where that originated?

http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/293200.html

Thank you, Big Brother. That site is great, and I bookmarked it.

How exciting you're coming to London. A tale of two cities!

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