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Paul Crowley ([personal profile] ciphergoth) wrote2002-07-03 02:58 pm

ID cards

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_2084000/2084860.stm

Note that the discussion of "what information might be stored on the smart chip" is pointless - for the most part, they can just as easily look up in a central database anything that isn't directly stored on the card.

[identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com 2002-07-03 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well there seems to be nothing stopping us stuffing the ballot on that bbc page - if anyone is really really bored...

Poll booth

[identity profile] ukfetish.livejournal.com 2002-07-03 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
Notice the current score is around 65% in favour, only 35% against...

(a) with the traffic on the BBC site, you're not stuffing that without a script.

(b) is this country really that far down the toilet?

:(

Denny

Re: Poll booth

[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com 2002-07-03 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
i just did about 20 "no"s and it changed by 0.05%, if that's any help.

Re: Poll booth

[identity profile] giolla.livejournal.com 2002-07-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
(a) with the traffic on the BBC site, you're not stuffing that without a script.
Fairly trivial to do though.

[identity profile] bootpunk.livejournal.com 2002-07-03 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course, any form of card with enough info on it - a "critical mass" as such - will become rather involuntary very quickly. You don't have to carry ID in the US, but try getting into a bar in the East Village to drink on a Friday night if you don't have one. For a great deal of us, that makes the cards involuntary. If you need the card to collect benefits, carry out counter banking transactions, as ID for entry to government/official buildings, and many other normal activities, then everyone will have to have it on themselves just about all the time.

I used to be very, very strongly anti this, but I'm so used to carrying my bleeding passport all the time these days I'm more or less resigned to it all. Plus, I've lived in Switzerland, where they have ID cards, and if the UK ever approached the level of direct democracy and (apparant at least) personnal liberties there, I'd be a happy man. I might even move back - if class-conciousness and the clut of the celebrity were gone too ... :o/

[identity profile] jhg.livejournal.com 2002-07-04 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
My dad's cousin Diane and her Great Wurlitzer-playing husband Reg live in Switzerland, in a beautiful house on the side of a foothill to a mountain in a lovely village overlooking lake Zurich.

They've got a wide circle of friends who Reg regularly plays (with) his organ for.

10 minutes walk away is the local municipal sports centre, which is of the quality of the best private (and very very expensive) health clubs in the English countryide.

Not much further is the train station, which will whisk you in an air-conditioned, quiet, clean, virtually-bump-free double-storey carriage to Zurich itself, which is full of night-life etc.

And, of course, come November time you can grab your skis and go up the mountain...

I would love to live there - albeit when I'm a bit older, a lot richer, and am near-fluent in French, German and Italian.


J